thx for directing to my post dont forget to post a comment.
Ah and there is another improovment on the way

Quote from BullHorn :

I heard this too. I was told only when you set the powers in the Logitech profiler above 100, then the forces begin to work linearly.

And what about personal feelings?

Quote from Calvinaquino :

I dont have a logitech. but i read somewhere on the forums that (i think theres a link in Jakg's sig) that says that the FFB only starts to work fine with a value of 101-105 or so.

im aware of that opinion, but my personal fellings are 21-25 percents lower than people got used to (ffstepnum 64 lfs ~50)

Quote from G!NhO :

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Hell yeah

Quote from aroX123 :

I would like Formula Offroad Cars and Tracks

some rock crawling, mudding, dunes racing... i wanna i wanna

Quote from kaynd :

Ι think that below the 100% force strength value,the driver damps the feedback "messages".
Try 100% from the drivers and 20-40% in game

i have just made some testing,
and i think, that logitech driver start to damps lower forces when set more than ~80%
...some kind of smoothing, no matter how i set ff in lfs

Another discovery?
logitech set to value somwhere around 70-80% improves bumps for dfp,
or its just my personal feeling( xfg so2 ffstep num 64 logitech 70% lfs 50%

Another discovery?
logitech set to value somwhere around 70-80% improves bumps for dfp,
or its just my personal feeling( xfg so2 ffstep num 64 logitech 70% lfs 50%

Another discovery?
logitech set to value somwhere around 70-80% improves bumps for dfp,
or its just my personal feeling( xfg so2 ffstep num 64 logitech 70% lfs 50%

Setting more than 100% of ff strenght in logitech profiler causes forces to oscilate around centre.(people used to set 101-110 to exaggerate low forces around centre, in my opinion it is a mess setup)

Instead im using LFS ff step num 64, logitech profiler 100%, and lfs 10-30%(depends on car im driving) it provides far more realistic fellings. Setting more than 30% in LFS and more than 100 in logitech gives too much countersteer to feel real!!

Furthermore i noticed, that its sometimes better when logitech and lfs have the same ff level(once again it depends on car), then i tune both, logitech and lfs somwhere around 20-60%.

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Fri 13 Jun 2008, 04:54.

Well You can tweak ff a bit...Setting more than 100% of ff strenght in logitech profiler causes forces to oscilate around centre.(people used to set 101-110 to exaggerate low forces around centre, in my opinion it is a mess setup)
Instead im using LFS ff step num 64, logitech profiler 100%, and lfs 10-30%(depends on car im driving) it provides far more realistic fellings. Setting more than 30% in LFS and more than 100 in logitech gives too much countersteer to feel real!!
Furthermore i noticed, that its sometimes better when logitech and lfs have the same ff level, then i tune both, logitech and lfs somwhere around 20-60%.

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Fri 13 Jun 2008, 04:49.

Thank You very very much! I missed DS so much!!! its a lot more comfortable than analog-one

Quote from josepmaria :

Thanks for your work friend
Excuse my ignorance but, as there is no readme, what are we supposing to do with the Real Skid folder ?

sorry i forgot to remove this

Update 09.06.2008

I gave up idea of High-quality preview..takes too much time, best preview for You will always be testing my sounds on your sound system Engine sounds... i will post them later maybe

They are killing me!! PLEASE OH PLEASE do something!!

I am still not satisfied with these sounds. I will spend some time on updating again, i found that there is part of skid sample that sounds better and that scrape soft sounds more realistic even for hard surfaces, much like a real steel car hitting another object like cone/ wall/car. And grass/dirt/sand still needs balancing a bit. Furthermore i can not use 100% dynamic loudness for skid medium and heavy, as they are too loud compared to road noise(which was maxed already).

I need help
Convering lfs-fraps-aimersoft-youtube costs me a lot of sound data loss!!!
How to avoid this??

Quote from PioneerLv :

When comparing real sounds with yours, your sounds are a bit silenced from real.

Actually sound samples are louder than in previous sets, i used 100% dynamic loudness(always used 80% to avoid clipping).
They will never be the same as real onesl, and there is some strange volume ballancing in ingame preview i think that is because of converting from fraps to aimersoft and to youtube...

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Tue 3 Jun 2008, 22:09.

i cant stop myself from tweaking sounds, ivgot another idea.

original skid is here

and preview of my current beta-tweaked skid samples in attachment.

Please tell me what you are thinking about it

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Mon 2 Jun 2008, 21:29.

i found that ff step num is some kind of damping.

experimented a bit and find out, that theese settings works more real than any others:

for dfp driving force pro
900 degrees of rotation

ffstepnum: 64
lfs ff strenght 40

logitech overall ff strenght 40
dampers 0
springs 0
centering spring: unchecked and 0

Quote from JasonJ :

It's quite possible to make LFS change the sounds when you change cars using LFS scripts and dos batch files. Entering a car can call a different batch file to move files about within the LFS file structure. FlipCams uses this principle, but the user presses a key to change views instead.

Something to ponder if you like.

sounds interesting... a lot of work and fresh sound samples

Thanks!
i Know this set form DaveWs, but i found it unrealistic enough for xfg/xrg that is why i made my soundpack.
My all sounds are one pack, and should not be used separately, since the overal enjoyment drops, and thats why i recomend downloading engine(car) sounds


Actually if we want more realfeel, there should be DIFFERENT SOUND PACK FOR EVERY CAR (and tyre!!) or it should be realtime-calculated


So finally i think that We have got two different needs/ideas/expectations

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Wed 28 May 2008, 09:57.

Another great relase here!

Update 02.08.2015
- all sounds tweaked, new version included in attachment





details:

-crash sounds are original, but at lower frequencies, additionaly scrapehard is mixed with scrapesoft, and first part of both saples is slightly tuned to give better first bang (try this one with hitting cones and tyres, sounds lovely IMO)
-skid sounds tweaked to real life
-skid sounds based on same sample as previous attempts but now they are cleared and well-balanced
-dont remember what sounds are original, but every sample is tweaked except of system sounds and horn sounds,
-grass/dirt/sand sounds are also balanced to sound good from the oustide and from inside view


Preview:
-Real life car skidding watch
-LFS ingame low quality preview watch (pops clicks and muffling comes with convertion )












Install
1 unpack .wav files to your "...LFS/data/sound" , rewrite old files
2 ...and You are up to date, an can also download engine sounds (from optional download) and install them into your ".../LFS/data/engine"

Hint when online, u may want to turn down your exhaust volume a bit ~25% (for example 0.6 instead of 0.8) using shift+a so all other sounds are louder, and other cars can be heard from greater distance.




Credits/thanks:
-Thanks for levelcore for skid sample
-for Gills4life for his great skid sand and skid dirt sound samples
-and for comments


Previous attempts moved to
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=41666

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Sun 2 Aug 2015, 11:15. Reason : new ideas

and leaving this thread alone. i made final relase:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=43433

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Wed 10 Dec 2008, 15:11.

i played with this awesome sound a bit and: (click me)

Last edited by Karl Morytz, Sun 25 May 2008, 10:55.